WELCOME TO THE DISCUSSION GROUP FOR THE BOOK "YOUR INNER FISH" BY NEIL SHUBIN. PROMPTS AND POSTS ARE STUDENT GENERATED. THIS IS A COLLECTIVE EFFORT TO ENGAGE IN DISCUSSIONS THAT CONNECT THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION WITH THE BIOLOGICAL CONCEPTS AND THEMES DISCUSSED IN OUR COURSE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
Thursday, April 14, 2011
DNA Detective
How does this type of deduction lead to variations in phylogenetic trees? What can be misleading about tracing the past of an organism solely through DNA or solely through physiological features?
Supermodel (Organisms)
What exactly are model organisms? What are the pros and cons of using them?
Wednesday, April 13, 2011
For procratinators who need more prompt^^:BRAINS!!!
Kevin jeon
bboybyung@gmail.com
I'm Anxious
Although Shubin focuses primarily on the specific trend toward cephalization in this section, his discussion is based on the assumption that our vertebrate nervous system has evolved over time.
How exactly does this nervous system work? How has it changed from our ancestors to vertebrates? What selective pressures in our evolutionary history have favored this development?
- Vincent Fiorentini
(vincent@panatechcomputer.com)
Sunday, April 10, 2011
Movement of water in our body
Kevin Jeon
Bboybyung@gamil.com
Invertebrate Phylum
Kevin Jeon
Bboybyung@gmail.com
Review of pregnancies
Nikhil Pereira (nikhil.pereira3@gmail.com)
EYES (fish vs. humans)
Sense of Smell
Yekaterina Khavkhalyuk (kittykatx93x@yahoo.com)
Saturday, April 9, 2011
Skin: The Plastic of Human Bodies
From advantageous to not
Friday, April 8, 2011
Fishy Disease
Thursday, April 7, 2011
Teeth everywhere
Nikhil Pereira (nikhil.pereira3@gmail.com)
Embryo to organism
Nikhil Pereira (nikhil.pereira3@gmail.com)
Vision Clarity
Talk about light refraction and how it effects the retina in air and in water.
Yekaterina Khavkhalyuk (kittykatx93x@yahoo.com)
The Middle Ear
Yekaterina Khavkhalyuk (kittykatx93x@yahoo.com)
Smelly!
Wednesday, April 6, 2011
Mitochondrias.
Weather
Being Bipedal Rocks!
Yekaterina Khavkhalyuk (kittykatx93x@yahoo.com)
Light Receptors
Combining ears and eyes?
UV, Color, Black and White, and Infrared vision oh my
Yekaterina Khavkhalyuk (kittykatx93x@yahoo.com)
The law of everything - except some things...
Still not blind.
Kyle Kim, piece847@gmail.com
Gene Regulation
Tuesday, April 5, 2011
Forever Diseased
Examining the "Blob"
Do We Got Time?
Bozo family and Haplogroups
From sponge blob to Sponge Bob?
Monday, April 4, 2011
The definition of a body
Nikhil Pereira (nikhil.pereira3@gmail.com)
EGG
Smelling in different environments
Bones and their protector
The Bonzo Family tree
Kevin Jeon:bboybyung@gmail.com
Tiktaalik
The Lifestyle of a Spud
Operculum No More
Different Eyes
Hox: A change we can believe in?
Cellular Transport
Sunday, April 3, 2011
Changing Teeth
Jackie James
(jackie.james@comcast.net)
Evolution of Behavior
Saturday, April 2, 2011
Teeth tell all
Jackie James
(jackie.james@comcast.net)
Finding out an organisms past
Jackie James
(jackie.james@comcast.net)
Germ Layers
Sponges
-Michelle Layvant, mlayvan2@students.d125.org
I'll Be a Monkey's Uncle
A Knee-Slapper!
Great Balls of Cells!
As you may already know, the origins of many of the features on the human head, such as the jaws, ears, larynx, and throat, can be traced to the gill arches from an embryo to an adult in a human. If look back to the Handy Genes chapter, a similar phenomenon occurs when the origin of the wing of a chicken can be trace to a wing bud and areas close to the ZPA, where high concentration of ZPA molecule exist, develop the wing in the exact way they are supposed to. I noticed a pattern. Almost all the features that organisms develop originate from a tiny region of cells, much like the entire embryo originates from a single ball of cells called the morula. My question is whether this is significant to understanding evolution, and whether this phenomenon occurs across multiple species (and kingdoms) to explain the source of changes that brought about speciation and diversity.
Consider the theme of evolution. Almost all organisms originate as tiny cells and develop from such minute beginnings into the organisms they are destined to become, but why is that so? Could this be a weak spot for earth dwelling organisms because “if anything interferes with normal development during the embryonic phase, the effects can be devastating.” (Weiten, 427). Is this important period of development the very period during which diversity comes to be?
Weiten, W., & Halpern, D. (2004). Motivation and Emotion. Psychology: Themes and Variation 6th Edition, 10, 427
Troy Glickstern
Shubin, I think we have a problem
If you look at the flowchart on page 176, a very interesting explanation for evolution over the course of many generations is provided. The key principle emphasized in this schematic is that “descent with modification can build a family tree, or lineage, that we can identify by characters.” (Shubin, 176). This is an easy way to justify how all organisms branched out from one common ancestor, but the one question that the flow chart does not answer is how divergence occurred in the first place? If an original humorless couple is the origin of the entire generation of full bozos, how did the bozos inherit such incredible diversity if the tools for such were not in their original genetic code? Did they intermarry? Obviously that is not possible in the animal kingdom because organisms of different species cannot interbreed.
Consider the theme of evolution and maybe the theme of structure and function. If descent with modification occurs, what causes the modification? Mutations in DNA do occur, which does explain why proteins do not function in the way they are intended, but it doesn’t seem possible that they occur so often that they result in the divergence of species so far over millions of years that jellyfish and humans could possibly be related. Prove me wrong?
Troy Glickstern
Friday, April 1, 2011
Old parts in new ways
my genes, your genes, their genes, more genes!
Fossil Finding
Rocks can Explain the Past and Predict the Future
Matt Micucci (coochqbk@sbcglobal.net)
Thursday, March 31, 2011
An Ear Distinction
On page 158, Shubin begins discussion on ears. Explain why "some of the most distinctive traits of mammals lie inside the ear"(159). What is similar and different between mammalian inner ears and the inside of ears of other animals. How does the theme of evolution tie into the differences we see?
Matt Kim
(matthewkim0803@gmail.com)
Amphioxus
Germ Layers
Fontanelles
hydroxyapatite and the rest
Wednesday, March 30, 2011
The Cells That Make Us
DNA not the same in every cell in our body?
Matt Micucci (coochqbk@sbcglobal.net)
History? Gross!
In general, one would expect the process of natural selection, however, to remove these negative effects over the course of evolutionary time. Why has this not happened? Why have there not been favorable mutations that have removed the diseases Shubin mentions that make us sick? Are there examples of diseases that have been selected against since humans' evolution from amphibians?
Explain why certain diseases persist in humans and why others do not. Explain the connection between your responses and evolution, the relationship between structure and function, and/or continuity and change.
- Vincent Fiorentini
(vincent@panatechcomputer.com)
Handy Genes
Sense of Smell
Those Darn Hernias
Teeth and the food web
-Michelle Layvant, mlayvan2@students.d125.org
Genes and Gill Slits
During development, humans are known to have gill slits for a certain period of time. The gill region of humans and sharks are shown in the diagram, on page 91. As described by Neil Shubin, the purpose of these slits is to form jaw bones, ear and throat structures, vocal cords, etc. Why is it that the gill slits in sharks do not close but the gill slits in humans close and “disappear” after a certain time in development? What signals or genes command the gill slits in sharks to stay open and for the gill slits in human embryos to close even though the gill region serves as the same purpose in both species?
Chandrika D.
Tuesday, March 29, 2011
Smells Good
External Ear
Hand Evolution
Evolution of Teeth
Cell recognition
Discovering Disease
Evolution of Eye Positions and Neck
The diagram on page 24 lays out the transition of an aquatic animal, fish, to a land-living animal, tetrapod. There were changes in the presence of neck, head shape, and eye positions. Just like any other animal, fish also need to be aware of their 360 degree surroundings. Why is it that fish had eyes only on their sides and no neck? Wouldn’t it seem logical that a neck would help them move their head to get a better view? What factors/adaptations led these fish to develop a neck and a “flat head [with] eyes on top” (24) and why is this a better advantage than having eyes on the sides? Compare the advantages and their adaptations of animals with eyes on the sides as opposed to eyes on the top of the head.
Chandrika D.
(shiningstar0393@gmail.com)
Making Scents
Monday, March 28, 2011
From Blobs to Bodies
Limb Development
The Bozo Family
The Evolution of Smelling and Seeing
Matt Micucci (coochqbk@sbcglobal.net)
TEETH (humans vs. reptiles)
A Changing Life
Ancient Cellular Telephones
Inside or Outside?
On page 74, Shubin tell us about animals with exoskeletons and animals like us with the skeleton on the inside of our body. Using our previous knowledge, what are the two different skeletons made of and what are the benefits to having this skeletal plan? Why do some animals have an exoskeleton and some have an endoskeleton?
Benny Jeong
bennyjeong218@gmail.com
Frozen Fossils?
The Arctic islands are one of the coldest places on the planet. People in Murmansk, Norilsk, and Vorkuta, which are three communities in Russia inhabit a portion of the Arctic Circle, along with people in Alaska, Russia, Greenland, and Scandinavia (“Arctic Circle”). According to the requirements laid out by Neil Shubin such as finding “rocks of the right age, rocks of the right type to preserve fossils, and rocks that are exposed at the surface” (5), is it possible to find fossils in these cold and snow/ice packed environments? In other words, can bones fossilize and remain preserved underground for hundreds of years even though the soil above them is not at normal temperature and the environment is not suitable for minerals such as apatite and fluorine in ground water? Apatite and fluorine are required for bones to fossilize. If it is not possible for bones to fossilize or remain fossilized for hundreds of years, what factors contribute to this?
Chandrika Darbha
(shiningstar0393@gmail.com)
“Arctic Circle”. Wikipedia. Retrieved March 28, 2011, from
Throw Me A Bone!
In chapter 7, Shubin uses the analogy of a bridge to describe how our skeletons work (124). He details how the skeleton’s strength has to do with not just the size and shape of the bones, but their molecular properties, as cells are organized differently and have different characteristics. For example, some cells are separated by hydroxyapatite for strength, while others are separated by collagen. He further describes the skeleton by talking about how cartilage adds pliability to help make our joints run smoothly.
Gene Enigmas
Christine Lin
choco_cat11@comcast.net
Sunday, March 27, 2011
Hernias and Testes (Thanks A Lot Fish.)
Fossils vs. DNA
Primitive Body Plans
Talk Is Not Cheap
Our fishy past
In chapter 11, Shubin connects our past to the active lifestyle of fish and includes many examples of disease that show how humans are products of a lengthy and convoluted evolutionary history. How do our ancestral traits relate to diseases such as heart disease, hemorrhoids, obesity, and hiccups? Please cite specific examples from the book and relate to our AP biology themes.
Eye see you
Clowning Around with Genes
Shubin illustrates this with an example of a couple having a child with a horrific genetic mutation that makes him look sort of like a clown, and he reproduces and his descendants become more and more clownlike. What kind of model could be used to plan this (think Mendelian inheritance!) and why would it be useful? How would genes pass on and mutate like this through multiple generations? How would a scientist be able to look at one of his descendants and determine a relation to him, if they only had their DNA to look at?
How are your teeth?
Healthy Vitamins?
Hic Hic
On page 190, Shubin discusses our relation to fish and tadpoles by talking about hiccups. He brings up the similarities between our respiratory system and the respiratory system of fish. He says that the brain stem-controlled breathing apparatus was taken from fish, and evolved into what we (as mammals) have right now (191).
Why do you think the arrangement works so well for humans and fish; that is, why would the nervous system usage of the brain stem as the “central pattern generator” be so successful? Unfortunately, the transition between fish respiration and mammal respiration was a difficult one; the air has to travel a lot farther in us mammals. What are the differences between mammals and fish when it comes to respiration? How exactly does the brain stem control our breathing? How could mammals perhaps adapt to the difficulties we inherited from the fish respiratory system?
Eugene Bulkin (doubleaw002@gmail.com)
Talking Cells
Kathy Li, kathy2132@gmail.com
Incorrect Implantation
Kathy Li, kathy2132@gmail.com
Mitochondria, Thanks Mom
(Bobby Muttilainen, rmuttilainen@gmail.com)
Jellyfishing
(Bobby Muttilainen, rmuttilainen@gmail.com)
Saturday, March 26, 2011
The evolution of bones vs the evolution of cells
The pits of pax
The Shark in Us All
Sonia Doshi soniadoshi7@gmail.com
Several Ways to Get a Head
Christine Lin
choco_cat11@comcast.net
Odor Potency.
Kyle Kim (piece847@gmail.com)
Friday, March 25, 2011
Do The Parts Make a Whole?
Why the Different Shapes and Sizes?
Even though every living creature has hands and arms which are used for functions such as grabbing and utilizing various things, their structure is completely different among animals. In the “Getting a Grip” chapter, Neil Shubin talks about how a Scottish surgeon Sir Charles Bell wrote a book about hands. On page 31, a chart is laid out with the different hand/arm structures of different animals. For the animals listed such as birds and bats, their main function is to fly. According to the research done by anatomist Sir Richard Owen about the structure and the order of the bodies, the common plan for almost all of the limbs are “one bone, followed by two bones, then little blobs, then little fingers or toes” (31). With this fact, why does a bird and a bat have different limb structures with different sized bones even though they have the same kind of bones? Or why does a pterosaur and theropod dinosaur have different arrangement with different sized bones even though the function is their limbs is the same: walking? Seals are both land and water animals. Does this have an affect on their bone size and arrangement? If so, how? All of animals listed use their limbs for major functions such as walking or waving it to swim. Should these limb structures be bigger than the human arm arrangement and size because of their constant usage? Humans wave their arms while walking or use them for minor function such as grabbing or working with various things but not for something like using them as “legs”. Why are these limbs smaller and what is the significance?
Chandrika Darbha
shiningstar0393@gmail.com
Transition of Eyes
Starting Up Fresh
Owen's Digits
Taking out the fossils
Nikhil Pereira
nikhil.pereira3@gmail.com
Shark Blood
Homeoboxes and Hox Genes
Genes
Teeth: Structure vs. Function?
Christine Lin
choco_cat11@comcast.net
Thursday, March 24, 2011
When you look me in the eyes (shout out to the JoBros)
What is this "eyeless" gene called? What were some of the technologies that geneticists probably used to isolate the DNA sequence and turn the gene on anywhere they wanted on the body? How was the discovery of this particular gene important to evolution and relating the creatures that were tested? Also, explain the importance of the eye and its evolutionary history.
Hannah Kay (hgkay@aol.com)
Our Inner Shark
What do these four arches develop into in humans? What do these similarities in arches tell us about humans and how we have evolved from sharks? What other similarities exist between sharks and humans? What conditions may have led to selective advantages that humans now have?
Hannah Kay (hgkay@aol.com)
What's In Your Head?
-Austin Lee, 2B/3
austinklee7@gmail.com
From Genes to Proteins
-Robbie Thomashow
diehardcubsfan93@comcast.net
What's the point of fish having lungs?
Alex Sapozhnikov marijio@gmail.com
Using Old Parts in New Ways
Consider the theme of Evolution. Do random changes in the ZPA and similar genes in numerous organisms show that small changes over the course of thousands of years can create organisms as different as flies, chickens, humans, and even Tiktaalik? Also, do the differences in the common plan for animal limbs, "one bone, followed by two bones, then little blobs, then fingers or toes" (Shubin, 31), seem all that big because they may have come about as corruptions of the exact same structure? Finally, does genetics seem to have all the influence, or does the incidence of selective pressure have an even bigger role as to why some organizations of the limbs generated by ZPA exist as they do now?
Troy Glickstern
(cleverstar8@comcast.net)
A Right to Arms
Sea Anemones
Marissa Lobl marissa.lobl@gmail.com